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John Hagee: Hitler Was Sent By God; Jews “Not Spiritually Alive”

May 22, 2008

Specifically he said, “God sent a hunter…Hitler was a hunter,” and “They are physically alive but they’re not spiritually alive.” Bruce Wilson of talk2action.org has much material on John Hagee. Wilson just discovered audio recordings of Hagee preaching that Hitler was doing God’s work by chasing Jews out of Europe to Palestine. Among Wilson’s discoveries:

- Jews are not “spiritually alive.” I have a copy of John Hagee’s “Prophecy Study Bible”, which makes quite clear Hagee is talking about all Jews now living - whom Hagee singles out, from among all other non-Christians on Earth, to note that they specifically do not have living souls. Indeed, Hagee says the souls of all Jews now living are dead. Dead souls. McCain endorser John hagee says Jews have dead souls.

- Hitler and the Nazis were sent by God, to chase Jews back to the land of Israel. Because that’s where God intends them to be. So, the Holocaust was a gruesomely inefficient system of divine “persuasion”, and Hitler and the Nazis were doing “God’s work”. But Hagee also depicts this divine ethnic cleansing imperative as a future project: it will happen.

- In Hagee’s 2006 “Jerusalem Countdown”, Hagee says anti-Semitism, and the Holocaust, were and are the fault of Jews - a divine curse for worshiping idols.

Hagee apologized to Catholics after his initial comments were revealed. It can’t be long before a letter to the Anti-Defamation League is in the works.

Update: McCain rejects Hagee, but takes a shot at Obama while doing so. He didn’t sit in those Hagee’s pews for 20 years, but he didn’t know much about Hagee before embracing him in the first place.

“Obviously, I find these remarks and others deeply offensive and indefensible, and I repudiate them. I did not know of them before Reverend Hagee’s endorsement, and I feel I must reject his endorsement as well. I have said I do not believe Senator Obama shares Reverend Wright’s extreme views. But let me also be clear, Reverend Hagee was not and is not my pastor or spiritual advisor, and I did not attend his church for twenty years. I have denounced statements he made immediately upon learning of them, as I do again today. “

40 comments

  1. That damn fat ass bastard Hagee is totally insane, he would love to see a whole country annilated for his make believe jesus. He needs to be put in a straight jacket and commited to a mental asylumn.


  2. Can we please have sudden death soon? We need a cleansing after the last two nights….sheesh!


  3. I agree with you pooh. After tonights show I feel like I need a shower.


  4. This is nothing new and Hagee isn’t alone. You think the other celebrity evangelical preachers are of a different mind?

    Every time someone tries to explain how much a friend of Israel Hagee and his like-minded associates are, all I can do is shake my head.

    With friends like these, who needs enemies.


  5. Well I’ve read the bible a couple of times so let’s have at John’s interpretation of scripture.

    It’s true that Jews have been murdered and/or dispersed by the Babylonians, the Assyrians, the Persians, the Greeks (after Alexander), the Romans, the Turks, Christians and Muslims alike, so I suppose there’s something in the water that makes men kill Jews -they’ve been doing so well at it since the dawn of civilization.

    Oh did I forget to mention the Germans? Yeah they got around to murdering several million. (There’s more I’m forgetting…like Russia -they did a number on God’s chosen people as well)

    Truth is zionism was going strong in 1867 when Mark Twain visited Israel and wrote how the country was a “desolate”, “mournful expanse”, “Wholly given to weeds”, “Hardly a tree or shrub”.

    Jews once again shed blood but this time for the ‘worthless’ land of Israel. A hundred plus years have gone by and Jews have successfully built up Israel and claimed their land “not because of the Holocaust, but in spite of it.” Foreign Policy monthly magazine June 08.

    I’m not sure why but Jews are really not safe anywhere they go. Perhaps in America, today in modern times, but not too long ago even the most liberal bastions of safety (ie:France) have turned on Jews in vicious condemnation.

    Look if you are like a total idiot on the subject I recommend buying “Idiot’s guide to Middle East Conflict.”

    Good book. Concise.

    But back to Hagee. It’s hurtful, disrespectful to claim Jews have somehow less connection to God than any Christian since the bible says our relationship to Jesus qualifies us as “spritual Jews” -perhaps it’s us not them that need to get some spritual meat on our bones.

    The purpose of God is the revealing of Truth. Truth about men, truth about God, and truth about how we relate to each other and to the divine. What better way than the history book we call the bible to relay that message?

    Hagee’s narrow vision of both Jews, history, and God (another wonderful book by Max Dimont) leads him to say the things we all inherently know not to be righteous.

    The fisherman? Perhaps it’s all Jews who yearn.

    The Hunter? Perhaps it’s all men who cause them to.

    After all, Hitler gets too much credit already.

    Try again John.


  6. Alan, you keep drawing moral equivalence between Wright and Hagee. There is none to be had! Obama sat in Wright’s church for TWENTY YEARS. McCain accepted this guy’s endorsement and suddenly they are best buds? You yourself talk about how Obama and that Ayers dude were just colleagues in passing…isn’t this relationship the exact same type of scenario?

    John Hagee is definitely not anti-Jew! He specifically REJECTS “supersessionism,” which states that Christian theology replaces Jewish theology and Jews must believe in Jesus Christ in order to be saved. Most Christians believe in supersessionism! That is, we believe that Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation for any and all. Pastor Hagee does NOT, and believes old covenants still apply, and thus is even more Jew-friendly than most run-of-the-mill Christians.

    Any attempt to paint him as some sort of antisemite will hopefully fail, because he ain’t.


  7. I wouldn’t draw a line from Hagee to McCain anymore than I’d parallel Wright to Barack.

    Don’t you find it funny that in 30+ years of preaching FOX could only muster up 3 or so sermons to cut up in 6 second clips, to show over and over and over?

    It’s obvious Wright is a flawed man. But it’s a poor attitude to demonize a man who has done more for white people than you or I. Thousands of white men in Chicago enjoy money, food, counseling, preaching, and employment opportunities though Wright’s church.

    Barack is brilliant. It’s foolish to assume he was “influenced” by Wright who -in all respect- is intellectually inferior. (And everyone here who’s read me before can vouch how I’ve defended Wright and read his papers and seen about 17 of his sermons -all regular Christian sermons)

    Barack said he listened to Wright cause he enjoyed hearing about the book of Luke, the book of John, the book of Galatians ect. Things Obama knew little of.

    But when Wright spoke politics, Barack understood the sentiment, and in typical Obama fashion empathized with the hurt, but we’re talking about a presidential candidate who has proven himself exceptional evidenced by his life’s work and not by what you or I assume influences his life.

    But to defend McCain, I think McCain respects Israel as much as Bush does and even though he seeks out controversial christian pastors for votes, I don’t begrudge him for it.


  8. The only mistake Rev. Wright made is to slap people in the face with a dose of truth. And here in America we don’t much like truth. Because we’re so great. Because God is on our side. Because we never do anything wrong. Because it’s the rest of the world that’s wrong every time.

    Hagee thinks he’s the Messiah, if he actually believes in the Messiah. P.S.: send more money.


  9. Damn! They be laying the SMACKDOWN down in Smithtown!


  10. Well, taking a break. Later.


  11. God loves everybody!

    EXCEPT THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE HE CAME TO EARTH DISGUISED AS HIS SON

    The Bible was written to incite dissention and hatred between different tribes of people.

    The Bible is a book of hatred.


  12. Well, I gave Hagee the benefit of the doubt after he apologized for his remarks about Catholics. But they pale in comparison to these comments which are completely unacceptalbe. This is even more reprehensible than some of Jeremiah Wright’s more looney claims.


  13. Alan- Please be precise. Rev.Hagee did not say “God sent Hirler”. Hagee did say ” God let it (the holocaust} happen “. Like evil and sickness,God sometimes allows it, but does not cause it. But you don’t believe in God, so it shouldn’t matter at all to you. Regards TOM


  14. Trying to see where Hagee may have been coming from I think he’s saying that God often uses bad situations to work out His ultimate goal of blessing a person or people. ie. the Israelites enslavement in Egypt.
    I’b be nice though if he’d do it in a less contrivertial manner. I’ve heard him speak on many occasions and have never gotten the opinion that he was antisemetic in the least.
    As far as the Bible being a book of hatred,I can see where some,when focusing on the Old Testiment,could come away with that inpression. However,a closer exzamination combing the Old and New Testiments will paint quite a different picture. It portrays a God who cares very deeply for His creation to the point of sacrificing His most precious possesion in order that fallen humanity may have a relationship with him.
    Now the Christian faith is quite exclusive in that it does teach that faith in Christ is the only means of “salvation”. Yet,most religions,barring them being pluralistic,do teach that their way is the only way.
    Pluralism,though it sounds nice,contains many contradictions that inhibit it from being a logical system. All paths can’t be the correct path. A cursery study of a simple map illustrates this principle.


  15. Wow! my spelling was horrible! That’s what I get for trying to type after working all night. :p


  16. I think it’d be dangerous to assume God puts people like Hitler on earth to serve some higher purpose.

    Or God uses the evil’s of life to fulfill prophecy -though God does turn despicable situations into glory, there is no evidence he has a hand in the inevitable.

    Like my previous post stated men do what we’ll do -that’s freedom of will.

    It’s that freedom of will that sets forth all the strife, question, and purpose of men’s lives.

    God has prophesized the result of this experiment of earth’s “spirit-filled monkeys” and we are playing out what has been ordained because according to the bible we are just beginning this long (forever) story of man and God.

    Just imagine us within the womb of eternity.

    We haven’t even begun our life and destiny as men transformed into unity with the divine and there are many ideas scriptually inspired about the happy ending we’re all in store for.

    So don’t be so quick to desparage the bible’s record on human solidarity and harmony. Life and the bible are much deeper than we’re giving it credit for.


  17. “All paths can’t be the correct path. A cursery study of a simple map illustrates this principle.”
    —————–

    Religion and faith in God is not such a black in white issue. In fact, the Jewish tradition preaches that “The righteous of all nations will enter the Kingdom”, which is generally interpreted to mean that one must not necessarily be a Jew to be a good person and be “saved”.

    My general, non-expert opinion on it is that there is no one true “way”. None of us have any way of knowing for sure the true nature of God, but there certainly is a God, because throughout history peoples from isolated cultures have always come up with the idea. I don’t think that can be any sort of accident. I think in a lot of ways different religions (of course, this doesn’t apply to stuff like Scientology or Wicca) like Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc. are just different cultures’ ways of viewing God. I don’t see why a good Buddhist person shouldn’t be saved while if Hitler were to accept Christ on his deathbed he could. I think it’s more important to DO the right thing than BELIEVE the right thing.

    Wow, we’re really getting off track and philosophical.

    So getting back to the political side of things…

    I think that McCain ought to come out and denounce Rev. Hagee, especially given that Obama had to come out and denounce Rev. Wright. Somehow I doubt the media will pressue him into it though….


  18. In other words, Michael, you are saying that the “one way” is “multiple ways.” Isn’t that just as narrow-minded as anyone else, trying to declare that YOUR way is the only way? All these religions can’t be correct…how can they be? Truth is truth. The trouble is finding it.

    “Do the right thing?” First of all, who defines what is right? Past that, do you honestly think the good someone does in their life outweighs all the bad? All the bad thoughts, desires, deeds, and tendencies? If history demonstrates one immutable truth, it’s that people are EVIL.


  19. I never said that at all flap. I said that I’m not an expert and this is just my personal opinion. Yes, truth is truth, but who are you or anybody else to say what it is. As with most thing in life, religious views tend to make some contradicting claims and the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

    Who defines what is right? Your God-given conscience and God Himself, I suppose. It’s certainly not Rev. Hagee, Rev. Wright or anyone else. And I never said that the “good outweighs the bad”. That’s actually almost the opposite of what I said when I said that Hitler could have just accepted Christ on his deathbed and be saved, according to the logic of many Christian denominations.

    And bad thoughts and desires are one thing. They are natural to a certain extent and the important thing is not to act on them and do bad deeds. And I don’t believe in the doctrine of “original sin”, so I think that people are basically good, not evil,


  20. This is only proof of the remarkable flexibility designed into the Bible.

    People can read into it whatever they please. They can use it to create their own reality.


  21. Some people don’t have consciences…literally. Antisocial personality disorder. I wouldn’t use that as a basis for morality.

    You’re right, God Himself is the only basis for truth. Other than nihilism I think that’s the only sensible answer. Exactly…if you or I or Hagee or Wright try to determine what truth is, it all breaks apart and is arbitrary. That’s why it’s important to search for Ultimate Truth. Christians see that Truth in the Bible, and preachers and theologians do the best they can to interpret that Truth. Thank God we live in a free country so we can believe what we wish, though.

    Most Protestant Christians view God as taking an objective view on sin. That is, my adulterous thoughts are no different than murder. Now, obviously as a society we can’t view crime in that fashion. But, to God, sin is sin. Christians believe the blood of Christ cleanses all sin. I have a hard time believing Hitler could have accepted Christ on his deathbed, by the way. The bottom line is that as a Christian, I believe what the Bible says. John 3:16 and many times throughout the New Testament. But, it’s not up to me to judge myself, you, Hitler, or whoever else. That’s up to God. But, again, without accepting moral absolutes (from God), then what Hitler did was neither bad nor good.

    Forget “original sin” and look at history. With a straight face (though I can’t see your face), you can say that people are basically good? You have too much faith in human beings! :D

    Our very basis of government with checks and balances was instituted because our Founders knew corruption and evil is the basic state of mankind. Government has to try to keep it all in check by keeping a close eye on itself, so to speak.

    I guess I just reject pluralism, Michael. Most religions are wrong. 2+2 can only equal 4. Is it arrogant to think that my beliefs are correct? I don’t think so. Do you think what you believe is correct? You must or you wouldn’t believe it.


  22. I believe in moral absolutes as well, Flap. I just don’t know how anybody can say that Christianity is necessarily the only correct view of God or morals, and the same applied to all other religious beliefs. There are moral absolutes, but they are not necessarily Christianity. Like I said before, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle of the views of most major world religions.

    And I’m not anti-religion at all, btw. I think that choice somebody makes about how to worship has to do with what they believe to be closest to the truth and what brings them closest to God. I admittedly haven’t totally found that yet in my life (although I am a baptized Catholic), but I certainly feel more of a connection to Judaism than I do to evangelical Christianity. For you, Christianity brings you closet to God, and that’s wonderful. It might not necessarily be the same for everybody though.

    Do you honestly in your heart believe that the Jews, who are called “God’s chosen people” in the Old Testament are not “spiritually alive”? From a Christian perspective, I would have to think that Jesus was pretty spiritually alive. What’s so invalid, from a Christian perspective, about following the same faith as Jesus?

    “I have a hard time believing Hitler could have accepted Christ on his deathbed, by the way.”

    I do too, but that wasn’t my point. My point was that, as far as most Christian denominations are concerned, he COULD have and been totally forgiven and saved.

    And I also have a hard time believing that loving God would send his children to Hell for eternal torture.

    “Most Protestant Christians view God as taking an objective view on sin. That is, my adulterous thoughts are no different than murder. Now, obviously as a society we can’t view crime in that fashion. ”

    Well, that pretty much kills the Christian right’s argument that our laws should be and are based on Christian principles doesn’t it? I’m not saying that it’s easy to determine what is right or wrong and what our laws should be, but they certainly should not be based soley on the Bible or Christian teachings. That’s theocracy, not Democracy.


  23. I agree with you, Michael, that we shouldn’t have a theocracy. Our laws should not be based solely on the Bible or Christian teachings. But our laws need to have an ultimate moral basis, and I’d rather look to the Bible than most other places.

    Well, this may be an unpopular view, but according to the Bible I think Hitler could have been saved and totally forgiven. My point was that sin is sin in the eyes of God, so Christ’s blood cleanses it all.

    As to the Hell issue, it is not easy. Some people believe Hell is just a separation from God. You reject God, He rejects you. In other words, God is present in everyone’s life on Earth, even non-believers. His positive influence is here. If you reject Him, after you die He rejects you. Burning in fire? I doubt it, but I don’t know. I envision it as some sort of eternal darkness…or maybe it’s just an eternity of living on Earth. :) Seventh Day Adventists don’t believe in Hell. I think most Christians theologians acknowledge that the Bible talks about Hell.

    I am very pro-Jew. I love Jewish people, Israel, and am biased towards them. I hope most Christians feel in that similar fashion towards them. Pastor Hagee himself, as I stated, believes that Jews are not required to believe in Christ. I find that to be the opposite of what the New Testament says, but I’m no theologian.

    I know it sounds parochial and arrogant to say “MORAL ABSOLUTES MUST COME FROM THE BIBLE,” or any other holy book for that matter, but where else should they come from and *why* should we trust those sources? You say that the truth probably lies in between major world religions…why should I believe that? Everything becomes relative, doesn’t it?


  24. “I know it sounds parochial and arrogant to say “MORAL ABSOLUTES MUST COME FROM THE BIBLE,” or any other holy book for that matter, but where else should they come from and *why* should we trust those sources? You say that the truth probably lies in between major world religions…why should I believe that? Everything becomes relative, doesn’t it?”
    ———–

    I’m not so sure that everything becomes relative, although you can certainly argue that, but it is certain that everything becomes EASIER. When you don’t question the Bible in any way, I guess it leaves you at ease as to what right and wrong absolutely are. It doesn’t necessarily mean that the Bible is right about everything; it just means that it is as far as you’re concerned. And I’m not necessarily saying that’s wrong either. I’m just saying that I don’t know and there really is no way to know for sure.

    And since you said that you agree that our laws should not be based on the Bible, that personal sense of security can’t really help in the problem of whether or not our laws should be based on Biblical principles.


  25. Kudos for McCain for rejecting Hagee’s endorsement. He didn’t the right and smart thing.


  26. I meant to say he DID the right and smart thing


  27. Our laws should not be based SOLELY on the Bible. That is, we shouldn’t have an entirely Christian worldview. Most of what the Bible says should apply and has been applied to many of our laws. Heck, the Ten Commandments are chiseled into the walls of the Supreme Court.

    So because there is “really no way to know for sure,” murder is not necessarily wrong? Everything DOES become relative. I think I mentioned before…it’s perfectly reasonable to be a nihilist, where there is no ultimate good or bad, but I find it hard to accept the very notion of “good and bad” without accepting the Bible (or some other book that you believe to be absolute truth).

    I mean, the animal world is nihilistic. There’s no good or bad. If you accept Darwinian macroevolution as fact, it makes perfect sense to be a nihilist.


  28. And I meant to say “some other source of absolute truth” not “book.”


  29. “I mean, the animal world is nihilistic. There’s no good or bad. If you accept Darwinian macroevolution as fact, it makes perfect sense to be a nihilist.”

    What about the idea that evolution was the method God used to create human beings? Belief in evolution and God are not mutually exclusive.


  30. Everyone is wrong about one another.

    Leave the jews alone.
    Now I want a jew as a presidential candidate.
    Possibly a black jewish bisexual woman.
    Take that America.


  31. Wow, a black jewish bisexual woman as president of the United States. I might be dead by then to see this…so dead.


  32. If McCain says the “difference” is he didn’t attend the church for 20 years…As in …it’s a given that the words are equally controversial (hince why he won’t defend them) then I must ask….WHAT ‘S WRONG WITH ATTENDING SOMEONE’S CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS??? I don’t get it. The media has been talking about Wright’s words! I thought. Maybe it WAS about the issue of: “HOW CAN BARACK GO TO CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS???!!! 20 YEARS!!!!”


  33. Hagee sounds like a hate filled man. I do not want any God who would allow a Hitler to come to power. But the Christian Bible in the Book of Romans claims that God places all leaders of nations in power. I would not want a God who is responsible for dictators or discriminatory, hateful, immoral leaders like Hitler. Hagee might claim that if it is in the Bible it must be true, well I would say that God is no God; instead that God is a Devil pretending to be God. Might Hagee be a victim of the ultimate deception?
    “my feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s Truth, was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the lord at last rose in his might…..” “As a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.” Hitler April 12, 1922, “The Speeches of Adolf Hitler” Vol. 1 of 2, pg.,19-20, (Oxford Press, 1942).

    Letter to Gerhard Engel 1941 – “I shall remain a Catholic for ever” A. Hitler

    From Mein Kampf and at the Reichstag 1938: “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the almighty Creator by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” A. Hitler.

    Napoleon-“Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet.”

    Was Hitler an atheist or a secular leader as many would have you believe? Not if you do a little reading of his speeches, his top officers speeches, or any correspondence he had with his fellow hate-mongers.
    “My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s Truth, was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the lord at last rose in his might…..” “As a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.” Hitler April 12, 1922, “The Speeches of Adolf Hitler” Vol. 1 of 2, pg.,19-20, (Oxford Press, 1942).
    Napoleon-“Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet.”

    Was Hitler an atheist or a secular leader as many would have you believe? Not if you do a little reading of his speeches, his top officers speeches, or any correspondence he had with his fellow hate-mongers.
    “My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s Truth, was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the lord at last rose in his might…..” “As a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.” Hitler April 12, 1922, “The Speeches of Adolf Hitler” Vol. 1 of 2, pg.,19-20, (Oxford Press, 1942).
    Letter to Gerhard Engel 1941 – “I shall remain a Catholic for ever” A. Hitler
    From Mein Kampf and at the Reichstag 1938: “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the almighty Creator by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” A. Hitler.
    Yet Many conservative try to paint Hitler as a secular leader. Why? They try in vein to further their wish for a Christian Theocracy or a fusion of Church and State here in the USA. This attempt is out of pure greed for their view of ideology or religion and how they view government in the US. In order to throw mud and discredit secular government this sick tactic of the outright distortion of history is thrust upon American secular government. The distortion is that secular government is bad because Hitler was an Atheist or Secular. Both of which are falsehoods that spit on the memory of all those who perished under Hitler’s ugly, immoral, vulgar, dream for racial and religious homogenization. This historical revisionism is unethical to begin with, but also dishonest, ignoble, and a threat to the authenticity of real historians everywhere. If greedy ideology can create history based on personal agenda, what is there to stop the Bush administration from writing his own history of an administration gone wrong? This is why there is a deep seeded political rift in this nation today. It is due to the fact that there is a history for any viewpoint one can imagine. We cannot have a debate in this nation with any relative place from which to start. Because we have no common agreement upon what is history. We cannot debate anything and reach a real conclusion due to the fact that much of the information given by one side or the other is not true or the truth is taken out of context in order to obtain political posturing.


  34. wow, that was some epic research. Uh, very good?


    “We cannot debate anything and reach a real conclusion due to the fact that much of the information given by one side or the other is not true or the truth is taken out of context in order to obtain political posturing.”

    —Exactly, and this happens so much nowadays because everybody either wants to have more information than the other, that they twist certain spots of the stories and or it just really becomes some sort of competition of who has the “right” or the longest argument.

    And this is frustrating and such a shame because ultimately sometimes there is no “right” or “wrong” to a side of an argument since we have to start seeing everything from all sides of the story… from different perspectives.


  35. “Now I want a jew as a presidential candidate.
    Possibly a black jewish bisexual woman.
    Take that America.”

    I would prefer a black jewish bisexual woman with a spanish surname.


  36. How about an albino, very sexualy confused hermaphrodite.


  37. As far as differenciating between some of the major religions(Islam,Hinduisim,Buddism)and Christianity,Ravi Zacharias has written a good book entitled “Jesus Among Other Gods”. Which is a good read for anyone interested in that topic.


  38. Michael, you are correct, belief in God and Darwinian macroevolution is certainly not mutually exclusive. I guess I meant “undirected Darwinian macroevolution.” But then I guess the argument could be made that a Deistic God created the conditions and stepped away.


  39. You need to listen to entire sermon and all of Dr. Hagee’s Sermons on this subject. He has never condoned Hitler or the Halocaust. This must be a from a site that did not follow the whole subject that was discussed and never heard what the many Rabbi’s have to say about Dr. Hagee and this sermon or his undoubted support for Israel and the Jewish people. Just as I support the Jewish people and the state of Israel as our only true friend in the Middle East. Just look to their U.N. voting record and how it aligns with the U.S.


  40. Ok, lets see, in the Bible it talks about god using
    nations like Egypt- ” For for this cause have I raised you up, That MY NAME may be DECLARED through all the earth”- “& God HARDENED the Heart of Pharoh”
    God sent the Philistines,& Babylon,ect to bring his judgements on the jews because they were not obeying God & His Laws - If he did it to them His ‘ CHOSEN” people what will he do to the rest of us?
    God also said thruogh the Prophets That God Builds & Destroys Nations- “The Heart of the king is in the Hand of the Lord, As the rivers of water HE turneth them wheresoever He will”.
    Now- What is Prophecy?- The writing of history in Advance God Knows the end from the beginning & have given a brief outline of what will happen He didn’t give us ALL the answers because He wants us to TRUST & Obey- To you who are making fun - Do You realize YOU are fullfilling Prophecy? ” In The Last Days, Mockers will come ” It also says “MANY FALSE TEACHERS will show up” What does God have to do to get you to wake up, REPENT of Sin??? A one world Government with a false religion? 100 pound hail stones falling on your heads? It Might be wise to go read what GOD & not Man has said- YOU SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS-
    Are they agreeing with what GOD Said? If God Says PRIDE or anything else is a ABOMINATION Then its has been, is now, & FOREVER will be an ABOMINATION no matter if 6,677,000,000 people on this earth call it ok. Those that read have been warned if you choose not to listen its on your own head.Your blood is not on my hands.


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