Thanks For The Career Advice
April 12, 2008From: Mac
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:27 PM
To: Alan
Subject:Alan, you could be rich beyond your wildest dreams. You could be the King of the Talking Heads, with your radio show syndicated on thousands of stations across the nation, and your TV show the most watched in cable network history. You could leave…all the rest in the dust. The plan is based on a simple not-too-far-from-the-truth fact. All of you are faking it for the dough and the ego.
Become the first liberal talking head to convert to conservatism (it hasn’t been done in the opposite direction, either, by anyone of any note). Convert - from being the most obnoxious liberal ever to be on a TV show - into a staunch conservative. Invent a great story that
you finally see the light and can no longer defend the multifarious and deceitful piles of bulls**t being dropped by the likes of Obama and the Clintons and Kennedy and Jesse Jackson and the Reverend Al Sharpton and all the rest. Announce it unexpectedly on H&C. Watch
Hannity go speechless…Go rent the movie Network and watch it again. See how Howard Beale did it. Take notes. Think up a line like “I am mad as hell….”. Take the power and the money and run.You heard it here first. Do it. I will take no credit for the idea. It is all yours. I may even start liking you.
My irony meter just exploded in my living room, I wasn’t sure why but I noticed it happened as soon as a conservative claimed liberals to be full of sh!$.
It’s the fifth one this week, I either have to stop buying these things or remind every conservative I meet that Mcain is so out of touch with America that his mounds of dung manifest when he chastises Obama for clarifying and explaining a focus of American discontent.
It’s Republicans! Oh, how I patiently wait for the upcoming democratic government as we’ll undoubtedly carry you conservatives kicking and screaming into prosperity.
After we fix your mistakes.
“I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one; “O Lord make my enemies ridiculous.” And God granted it.” … Voltaire/Colmes.
It’s disturbing to see the faux-intellectualism permeating the agnostic/atheist movement these days.
I posted here a long, long time ago that I believed this middle east war would turn off everyone to religion -in whole, christians, jews, and muslims would get lumped in together in this simple thought “Belief in religion has caused almost every atrocity”.
Each religion has many sins to atone for but does the bible support any of it?
Jesus says (paraphrased) that the time of the “Law” is over (The Law was the 2,000 year old values of the time dealing with slavery, woman, and religion)that he came “to fulfill the law”. So I tire when I hear people associate a few religion’s need to oppress woman, minorities, and children with the bible. They are just not the same.
Further more Hell in the bible is not a place you’ll burn in forever if you don’t go to church. Sheesh, people! The bible clearly states it’s a seperation from God from whence you simply cease to exist. “An abyss” Jesus says. The “lake of fire” is there indeed but it’s for an enemy of God who apparently spends all “his” time trying to get us to believe Pat Robertson, and Sean Hannity represent christian values.
My point is simple. Everything I hear about religion is wrong unless it comes straight from the bible. And the bible is the simplest thing to understand if you read it without an agenda.
The bible is exactly as God intended it to be. God doesn’t screw up. You do. And I do. But the bible is the simplest, easiest, most concise way to describe man, God, and our situation here on earth and after.
It surprises me that Muslims seem to think God screwed it up the first time and “finally” got it right with the Koran -what a slacker god!
It doesn’t surprise me that Jewish people have a hard time accepting Jesus as thier messiah, Christians and Muslims have been killing Jews forever. But that’s not supported in the bible either.
It surprises me that Christians learn more about the bible from the media or their denomination than from the actual book. (When I questioned Jehova Witness religion -I used to go- they told me “don’t read those books! They are anti-witness!” I told them why does “truth” fear scrutiny?” I was kicked out that church soon after. True story. :)
The point is there is plenty of good science supporting bible accuracy, reliance, and preciseness. Read Josh Mcdowell, read the Bible, read The God Delusion (!) and see the argument against truth and find your answer, but don’t pervert the scripture then base your opinions on ignorant beliefs.
So far everything Jesus said would happen is coming to pass and the bible will prove to be far more accurate than all the crap mankind has piled on top of it.
In this age of distorted truths, easy confusions/contortions and dawdling indecisiveness (see: Obama campaign) is it reasonable to assume we don’t know everything about the best book available on the nature of God?
How about you convert to just a journalist with no political persuasion at all and just let us decide the news stories by utilizing this thing called the internet and doing your show based on what is posted or initiated by the caller. You should not bring up stories at all, leaving all show content free of your obvious political bias. This is the only way to change this thing in American media where each part of the 2 party system complains that the other one is allowed more bias than the other, lowering the intellect and rational discourse of the discussions being had in all forms of media, and resulting in the cannibalization and sacrifice of American psyche and understanding of their own political system, and world geo-politics. Much of the this Iraq war can be attributed to you virtually denying the American people true news because much of your time is spent on intellectual fodder and irrelevant issues.
Haha, I love how he says “convert” to conservatism, as if political ideology is a religion.
Gordy, what a bunch of sanctimonious crap. Rational discourse? You can find many fallacies in what most anyone says, including Alan, but so what? Alan has his show that he and his staff work to prepare for our benefit, and, to some extent, Alan’s personal need to use radio as a medium of expression.
He presents himself to us, good and bad, and invites us to listen to his thoughts, not messages that fit your arrogant approval. His political bias is obvious because it’s supposed to be. He characterizes himself as a liberal. Here’s another revelation, change the channel if you don’t like his show, or, as is your right, petition for its removal, but please try to do it on actual merit, not your oppressive desire to have only coldly presented programming.
“Each religion has many sins to atone for but does the bible support any of it? ”
Welllll, maybe.
Jesus did say, in parable ‘bring those that will not follow me and slay them before me!’.
Easy to expand on that to killing anyone that doesn’t toe the ‘christian’ line.
AND they’ve been doing just that for over 1000 years.
You should become an independent like Jesse Ventura. There’s a real MAN ! VOTE THEM ALL OUT AND CLEAN HOUSE !We are to stupid to do it.
Watch out Alan!
Ever heard the phrase..
“the devil comes to you in sheep’s clothing”
This is the devil trying to convince you to join with evil!
Don’t do it!!!!!! Its a trick!
lol
Why should I discontinue my conduct, WFG, when what you are saying is basically that all is fair? Alan retains the right to propagate lies over the airways that I fund with my taxes, so why should I oblige to change my behavior?
What I am suggesting is that Alan discontinue his objective, which is quite obviously to influence other peoples hearts and minds to fit his mold of thought and to maintain the status quo. If this was anything but the truth, we would see Alan supporting more choices in our electoral system and supporting candidates regardless of popularity. I believe that what Alan has done that is nearly or fully criminal is his repeated dismissal of those candidates running for office and endorsing and stating as fact that certain candidates “could not win” the Presidency of the United States. I believe that this is nearing the lines of criminality because that from his platform of public recognizance, he is having an affect on public opinion and like anything else, many listeners will take his words for face value. So, if one couldn’t understand the reason why any individual should not be given corporate sponsorship, all they would have to do is listen to Mr. Colmes, who is most likely a decent human being, but nonetheless, his “opinions” are nothing more than endorsed talking points aimed on maintaining the status quo and dispersing opinions and “news” that distracts from anything that does not enforce the current day politic. His job depends on the bickering in a two party system you know.
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yep.
Why should I discontinue my conduct, WFG, when what you are saying is basically that all is fair? Alan retains the right to propagate lies over the airways that I fund with my taxes, so why should I oblige to change my behavior?
You can do pretty much as you like. Was I wrong to tell you to go away if you don’t like Alan’s show? Yes, because it was oppressive in tone. For that I am sorry. That said, it’s not my intent to tell you to shut up, only to tell you what I think of your argument and its resolution: it stinks of condescension and fascistic mentality.
What I am suggesting is that Alan discontinue his objective, which is quite obviously to influence other peoples hearts and minds to fit his mold of thought and to maintain the status quo.
It’s his right to do so, just as it would be his right to challenge your characterization of his intent. Furthermore, saying quiet obviously doesn’t prove your assertion.
If this was anything but the truth, we would see Alan supporting more choices in our electoral system and supporting candidates regardless of popularity.
Again, you miss the point of a show like Alan’s. What he presents is an interpretation, a personal value system. There is no obligation for him to give time to the candidates you want him to, and other issues must be considered, not the least of which is ratings and relevance to current events. Take the Republicans, for example. Do you know how many candidates there were, perhaps still are, for that party? I looked at Vote-Smart months back, some 40-50, withdrawns and still actives, were listed, yet you propose equal time, with all its complexities? Are you the same to see deceit every time a person doesn’t get the exact amount of air time promised to him, to read every message on the chiron as nefarious propaganda? Perhaps, but I think you might see more than is actually there if that’s the case.
<I believe that what Alan has done that is nearly or fully criminal is his repeated dismissal of those candidates running for office and endorsing and stating as fact that certain candidates “could not win” the Presidency of the United States.
You have the right to see anything you wish as criminal in the moral sense, but Alan’s supposed stating as fact the inevitability of candidates’ victories and losses is not intended as objective fact, they’re his opinions, one’s which reasonable people with full comprehension do not need qualified.
I believe that this is nearing the lines of criminality because that from his platform of public recognizance, he is having an affect on public opinion and like anything else, many listeners will take his words for face value.
I believe it is amoral, to say the least, to guilt burden a man into self repression.
So, if one couldn’t understand the reason why any individual should not be given corporate sponsorship, all they would have to do is listen to Mr. Colmes, who is most likely a decent human being, but nonetheless, his “opinions” are nothing more than endorsed talking points aimed on maintaining the status quo and dispersing opinions and “news” that distracts from anything that does not enforce the current day politic. His job depends on the bickering in a two party system you know.
If the current environment provides him this platform, so be it. He didn’t begin it, and he has the right to comment on it, and is not obligated, as he pretty much is with just about all that you’ve argued he does, to stop it.
I made a tag error.
” . . . I believe that what Alan has done that is nearly or fully criminal is his repeated dismissal of those candidates running for office and endorsing and stating as fact that certain candidates “could not win” the Presidency of the United States . . .”
Luke 19:27. Yousef quoted this verse earlier this week to support his beheadings. Muslims enjoy quoting this verse but of course it’s completely, utterly, wrong.
The verse is part of a story. A parable about a king who leaves to build his kingdom. The story starts on Luke 19:11.
The king leaves money for 10 servants and returns to find one who is full of fear, resentment, and rebelliousness. The king’s people do not love or serve him. When the king learns of this man’s misuse of what he’s given he chastises him.
The story states “His citizens hated him and said “We will not have this man to reign over us”.
That’s when the king -in this story- returns and orders “But bring here those enemies of mine, who do not want me to reign over them, and slay them before me.” (Which surprises no one who understands life under a king -2,000 years ago)
The story served it’s purpose as a metaphoric lesson. Jesus’s stock and trade, but when he spoke for himself and not in parable it is easy to see that all men will not be judged…well till judgement day. There are no men in heaven today sir.
Everyone rests “as a blink of the eye” from the moment you die to the moment that we all face God together. Humanity total.
I hope that everyone reads the bible and studies it a bit in their life. There is so much (so much) distortion as to the Word of God. I really do believe it is a flawless script from the mind of God.
But man and religion has really fu#$d it up. :P
Ack! I forgot to say about Jesus’s own words, that I think any reasonable man reads that God claims “Vengance is mine” sayeth the lord and turn the other cheek and so forth with the other “love thy enemy” stuff.
I surprise when people say “Muslims, Christians, Jews” it’s all the same when you speak of moderates.
No it is not! These texts (Koran versus Jewish/Christian scripture) are fundamentally at odds and different.
Even moderate Muslims protested Israel with ferverent action and display.
It surprises me how easily Muslims pick and choose what to believe from Jesus’s mouth.
(ie: “Oh that part about killing?? Obviously misquoted. The slaying? GOSPEL!”)
Mac claims there have been no so-called “conservatives” who’ve become liberals.
That would be strange news to Arianna Huffington, Ed Schultz, or Kevin Phillips.
Mac sees them much less today on that sinister, treasonous “liberal media” than when they were dedicated fanatics of that howl-at-the-moon, pseudo-con
religion.
Alan has some popularity because he actually talks to all the proto-fascists who call, and does not screen them out or quickly cut them off like almost all hosts on rightwingnut hateradio.
What you are saying is still that all is fair still WFG.
One incorrect statement in your response, WFG, is that I am displaying “fascistic” behavior by suggesting Alan cease his propaganda. This is impossible, for I am not a corporation and in fact what I did suggest was that Alan discontinue his behavior that is much more liken to “fascistic” behavior due to his general pandering to only those who are endorsed by the big corporations and dismissing all competition due to inadequate funding or some other materialistic or culturally revolutionary idea that the opposition to the big names in the Democrat party. Supporting only these big names (i.e. Clinton, Obama, Edwards) is the equivalent of acknowledging that accumulated wealth and political power is the key to winning and if these quotas are not met, then all other options and possibilities go out the window.
This is the type of 1 dimensional thinking and dismissal of hope and possibility that is our sickness as a culture but dually, it is the enforced mentality of the mass media. You are to accept what limited choices you have as the most credible and genuine hopes for our future as a country, and this is my central opposition to Alan and all other pundits of his nature. Hypocrisy of the highest form is what you get here. I want you gone Alan, unless you recognize my words and take appropriate action, I will not discontinue.
WFG - “Are you the same to see deceit every time a person doesn’t get the exact amount of air time promised to him, to read every message on the chiron as nefarious propaganda?”
No, what I see out of this is the exponentially accelerated ouroboric destruction of ourselves in this behavior. For all we do is pit one side against the other, what is unspoken is that this eternal battle of “left and right” does nothing more than re-enforce each others dominance in our political system and denounces all other competition as untried and unsafe. This is a self propagating 69 rooted in lies, determined to extinguish all other ideologies. The two party system is in actuality an American Centralist party divided into to parties that dramatize opposition when in reality, their beliefs and goals are very much the same, along with their membership to the same organizations and funding from the same corporations via hedge-funding.